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Are there any predictions made by Nostradamus that are actually hard to argue with?
All predictions that Nostradamus' supporters cite are all contrived after the fact. After September 11, 2001, people looked at certain verses that Nostradamus wrote and read stuff into them to make it seem like Nostradamus predicted the terrorist attacks that occurred that day. Same goes for many other events.
So my question is: what is the strongest argument, in terms of a single event, for showing that Nostradamus accurately predicted anything?
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Nostradamus - Al Stewart





Things like the Wall Street bailout and the Patriot Act teach us serious lessons: despite the best face and intentions that ANY administration puts forth on something big, it ends up biting us in the ass in the long run.
My slur was decidedly NOT anti-gay. Limp-wristed refers to anyone without the backbone to stand up and follow through on matters of importance. A tendency to be complacent and timid, if you like. I know a lot of bull dykes that are decidedly NOT limp-wristed, and before you try and past that description on a gay male, keep in mind they’re still MALE. One is likely to get an ass-kicking for such things.
Unless you’ve missed the news recently, we’re already in much more of a Police State than we’ve had in decades. Reference the Patriot Act and the two insane ‘wars’ where we’re off compounding the problem instead of solving it.
These HUGE infringements on us started off small – because selling bullshit like that is a politician’s art.
Smoking’s bad for you, but there’s still enough political muscle to keep it from becoming illegal. So, what’s the next best thing? Barry O adds $1 a pack tax before he’d had a chance to unpack his BVD’s. Does that prevent anyone from smoking? No. Does it excessively burden those who do? Yes indeed. True to form, it all started out small, with simple comments like ‘can you blow that smoke the other way?’, and instead of taking a baseball bat to people, smokers complied. Then they were given their own section in many public areas. Then they were pushed outside…and in many places you can’t even smoke THERE anymore.
Smoking’s bad for you. No argument there. It MAY even be bad for those around it. Not my point. My point is that if it’s something that’s gotten the soft sell initially, and gotten completely overblown by taxation and regulation to the point where most smokers are made to feel like criminals.
That’s just one small example of Government run amok. Apply it to Healthcare since we’ve no positive reason to expect anything different from the criminals in DC, and it’s not at all a stretch to expect that we’ll have the same Motor Vehicle Administration type hassles just to get a boil lanced 10 years hence.
1.) You can’t hold the French to anyone as an example of much. I’ve got a WW2 French rifle for sale if you’re interested…never fired, and only dropped once. The fact is that we’re NOT France. Our system of government, our historical values and sentiments are not the same. What may work for the French, who’ve consistently struck me as reasonable people, may not work in the current environment of the US, where greed rules and more is…well…more.
Our society and citizenry is a very unique blend unlike any in the world. Provide something free, or damn near it, to Americans and the whole concept is shot to hell. Did we not learn anything from the Oprah/KFC fiasco?!?
2.) I’ve personally seen assloads of incompetence in government-run healthcare facilities. Adding Tricare to the Military to manage some of that burden, while dropping some costs, broke the promise made to our vets long ago: fight for us and we’ll take care of you, for life. The fact is we don’t do a good job of making good on that promise in these government programs. Just ask the guys living in moldy rooms at Walter Reed, or the people who’ve developed staph infections while sitting in the ER waiting room at Malcom Grow (Andrews AFB). They’re dirty, inefficient and disgusting facilities. It’s no coincidence that MANY of our Military and VA hospitals hold the same standards as those of your local Health Department. Go eat a sandwich off the floor at one of THOSE and tell me how well ‘the system’ runs Healthcare.
3.) Sure, there are horror stories about people allowing others get between them and their doctor when it comes to healthcare. You’ve got to be your own advocate there. When I take a complaint to H&R Block, I get attention and, more often than not satisfaction. The IRS, not so much, because, well, they’re the IRS. We’re going to allow the same mentality to govern immediate life-and-death decisions for us? I say it’s bad enough they’re entrusted with the long-term ones.
4.) I think a better question is why should our government be allowed to take over an industry just because they make a few bucks and because some very visible failures have occurred? Where exactly does our Constitution allow such things? Did I miss an amendment somewhere, or do we just disregard that document nowadays? People get sick from eating bad spinach by the score, but we’re not taking over the produce industry, because there’s little opportunity to exercise power and control over anybody by being in charge of salad.
5.) Clean water is a public need, too, but if you don’t pay for your water bill, guess what? You get mighty thirsty…although nobody I know anymore actually CONSUMES water from the tap. That’s being run well, too. I have Fire Insurance, although I could choose to assume that risk and not have it. I can also lawfully refuse the assistance of the local FD if I chose to do so. Again, my risk.
6.) If I’m overdrawn at the bank, I don’t go write checks. They put PEOPLE in jail for that shit. (and, ironically, spend 100’s times the amount of the check in doing so) Spending money you don’t have is just bugshit crazy, yet we’re doing it over and over and over again. Problem is we’ve LONG ago spent all OUR money. Now we’re collectively spending our GRANDCHILDREN’s money, and completely ruining America’s position in the world in the process. Frankly, if we weren’t so arrogant, so interventionist, so insistent that everyone do things the way WE do
them, we wouldn’t have many of the problems we have with foreign nations.
7.) Doctors are already indoctrinated (!) in the Federal way of doing things. There’s an entire cottage industry dedicated to explaining to physicians how to do THEIR job in order to get maximum return out of Medicare and Medicaid. There’s no wonder there’s an audible sigh when a patient using either plan walks into an office.
8.) We’d be giving up diversified control of an entire industry, and placing it into the hands of our elected officials, the taskmasters to the bureaucrats. The attitude and quality of care would tie straight back to whoever’s sitting in the Oval Office at the moment, and that’s fundamentally wrong.
9.) Healthcare is indeed a commodity. Just like a car or a bank account, and despite the fact that we’ve taken over a lot of THOSE as well, not everybody gets to have one. Some people walk miles to work in the rain every day, while some smoke stogies in their Escalade riding solo to work listening to Chopin. I’m not about to pick the Chopin fan’s pocket so that Mr. Soggy and Tired can have an easier life, sorry. When I was Mr. Soggy and Tired, I made changes of my own choosing to ensure I would no longer be that man. I see no reason why others cannot do the same.
I have car insurance, but if I choose to no longer drive my car, I can opt out of it. In either case, I don’t expect The Gecko to chip in for my oil changes and new tires. I see some similarities there.
Costs can come down when we become a less litigious society. It’s not about the actual lawsuits or awards, it’s the FEAR of them that keep malpractice insurance costs high, which get passed right along to everyone else. Sadly, in our culture that’s a cost of doing business, just as is the n’er-do-well who doesn’t pay for his ER visit. If you visit the ER and are uninsured, you either pay the bill or you don’t. They sue, they win. You received services and you should pay for them, no different than if you’d gone to get your hair cut.
I’m all for giving folks sick days when they’re sick, but the fact of the matter is our culture abuses those things. People call in sick (hungover, tired, lazy, New Moon premier, etc) when they’re not, and abuses like that have lead to a culture where people are hesitant to call in sick when they’re genuinely ill. Changing THAT does not require a government-run healthcare system.
Not seeking healthcare when you’re sick because you can’t afford it, or self-medicating is a matter of education. Having Uncle Sam take over the industry isn’t going to change that or even improve it. My guess is that it will make going to the doctor the same kind of dreaded experience most people have going to the Post Office or the DMV.
If you think the military doesn’t enforce standards to lower healthcare costs, you’re not paying attention. Fat soldiers are few and far between. Smoking on Military bases is verboten in most cases.
10.) Here’s one you might find strikes home for you – I know it does for me. Can you imagine, in any form whatsoever, that if the United States Federal Government takes a bigger role in Healthcare for millions of its citizens, they’ll legalize medical marijuana? We’ve come SO far in gaining the popular vote on this single issue – a vote to allow Washington and its minions further control in this industry is, in my mind, a firm blow to that issue. For me, it’s important. There’s not a medication in the world, and I’ve tried most, which brings my blood
pressure down and keeps my slipped disc from keeping me in bed like a bowl of green.
The public option, at least according to breaking news on the AP, seems dead anyway…but discourse is good for the soul, don’t you think?
All the things I mentioned aren’t exactly Nostradamus predictions, Russ – they’re based on how our government has historically handled things they’ve become over-involved in. It’s not irrational – it’s rather a simple ‘you KNOW how this is going to go’ type look at them.
When given an inch, these folks take MILES.
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Making claims about about what will happen 5 years in the future is just a bad career move because people are going to find out how accurate those claims are within his own career.
I notice Jay Zwally uses the word 'nearly'. I don't know what Jay Zwally's definition of nearly is – maybe, by his standards, the Artic Ocean is already nearly ice free in which case his prediction is guaranteed to come true.
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